Rank behavior in dogs

  • Narration is a little too convoluted for my liking but it is indeed an interesting video Dan, the chain should had been removed beforehand if you ask me :)

  • The narration sounds strange because, first it's text to speech software, second it's written by a person who's mother tongue is not English. Consequently the grammar is unorthodox but not incorrect. Being familiar with a couple of European languages it was not difficult for me to understand, and actually made his assertions more poignant. So I tell you this person knows what he's talking about and has great insight, is worth listening to. BTW he talks about the chain and how the dogs "were not equipped by evolution to deal with it", in other words the grey dog doesn't have the capacity of reasoning/isolating the effects of the chain from the actions of the other dog. He also says that he could not intervene at that point to remove the chain because the dog would perceive his approach as support and would aggress even more. When I have time I'll watch his other videos.

  • timed out before it finished so could not see the whole thing. does demonstrate some primal dominance traits usually only seen in science documentaries on wild wolves.


    it also shows that dominance does not equal aggression - most animals use dominance instead of aggression hence bull breeds being high on aggression but low on dominance.


    like most of the guardian breeds I see they lack aggression but have a lot of dominance which for my tastes I give them a swerve for man-work. the herders ie german dogs have a better balance of dominance and aggression with my personal tastes for a practical working animal low dominance and high aggression.


    I do not see much practical value on man work for high dominance.


    I dunno I would not tolerate any inter-pack fighting especially he says his other young male in the background (off camera) flogged his female because he got excited - that means the dogs do not respect him (owner) as the pack leader.


    as far as dog on dog aggression i do not value it in the slightest as far as breeding potential, just a PITA within the pack. one on one is not part of a dogs evolution.


    the most obvious example of dogs that would not survive in nature are the game bred dogs.


    I must have very poorly socialised dogs because a strange dog on my property the video would have been completed in less than 2 minutes with a bloody and horrific mess - no single dog can overcome a pack of lesser dogs that kill (as a pack) prey animals for a living.


    strength in the pack always.

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  • Yep, the guy seems to know his etology xD I agree with pete on not allowing inter-pack fighting just because am kinda squeamish on that subject but as an educational vid its really usefull. Ill try to check the rest of the vids too if I can find the time

  • Peter, I think you're using the word aggression for aggression/drive?


    What I think you're saying is once a bull breed is turned on, the drive takes over and it no longer matters if the other dog submits, the fight in itself is the fuel to keep fighting.


    To me one appeal of LGDs is they aggress when pressed. Remove the pressure and the dog is easy going again. I agree that this is a different type of dog to what we're used to seeing in bull and herding breeds. Their aggression appears to be more common sense based than drive based. Although I will concede they are lower thresh hold/sharper personality types which inherently are less stable.